Mauldin on Greece: The Question Now Is Whether Or Not They Run On The Banks

My favorite newsletter writer John Mauldin is out with his latest Thoughts From The Frontline this morning titled This Time Is Different.  It’s packed with great quotes from the book named for that unfortunate maxim by Reinhart and Rogoff.

John gives us some important perspective on the crisis in Greece and a bit of a road map for how these things have played out elsewhere (Mexico, Argentina, Russia etc).  I’ll give you a taste and then send you over to TFTFL for the rest.

This is must-read stuff to understand what’s going on with the Euro and the Dollar, btw…

From Thoughts From The Frontline:

Greeks Bearing Gifts

On Monday, the government of Greece offered a “gift” to the markets of 8 billion euros worth of bonds at a rather high 6.25%. The demand was for 25 billion euros, so this offering was rather robust. Today, those same Greek bonds closed on 6.5%, more than offsetting the first year’s coupon. Greek bond yields are up more than 150 basis points in the last month!

Why such a one-week turnaround? Ambrose Evans Pritchard offers up this thought: “Marc Ostwald, from Monument Securities, said the botched bond issue of €8bn (£6.9bn) of Greek debt earlier this week has made matters worse. Many of the investors were ‘hot money’ funds that bought on rumors that China was emerging as a buyer, offering them a chance for quick profit. When the China story was denied by Beijing and Athens, these funds rushed for the exit.”

Greece is running a budget deficit of 12.5%. Under the Maastricht Treaty, they are supposed to keep it at 3%. Their GDP was $374 billion in 2008 (about €240 billion). If they can cut their budget deficit to 10% this year, that means they will need to go into the bond market for another €25 billion or so. But they already have a problem with rising debt. Look at the following graph on the debt of various countries.

jm012910image001

When Russia defaulted on its debt and sent the world into crisis in 1998, they had total debt of only €51 billion. Greece now has €254 billion and added another €8 billion this week, and needs to add another €24 billion (or so) later this year. That’s a debt-to-GDP ratio of over 100%, well above the limit of the treaty, which is 60%.

Greece benefitted from being in the Eurozone by getting very low interest rates, up until recently. Being in the Eurozone made investors confident. Now that confidence is eroding daily. And this week’s market action says rates will go higher, without some fiscal discipline. To help my US readers put this in perspective, let’s assume that Greece was the size of the US. To get back to Maastricht Treaty levels, they would need to cut the deficit by 4% of GDP for the next few years. If the US did that, it would mean an equivalent budget cut of $500 billion dollars. Per year. For three years running.

Read the rest by signing up (free):

http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/gateway.asp

Tags: , , ,

This content, which contains security-related opinions and/or information, is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon in any manner as professional advice, or an endorsement of any practices, products or services. There can be no guarantees or assurances that the views expressed here will be applicable for any particular facts or circumstances, and should not be relied upon in any manner. You should consult your own advisers as to legal, business, tax, and other related matters concerning any investment.

The commentary in this “post” (including any related blog, podcasts, videos, and social media) reflects the personal opinions, viewpoints, and analyses of the Ritholtz Wealth Management employees providing such comments, and should not be regarded the views of Ritholtz Wealth Management LLC. or its respective affiliates or as a description of advisory services provided by Ritholtz Wealth Management or performance returns of any Ritholtz Wealth Management Investments client.

References to any securities or digital assets, or performance data, are for illustrative purposes only and do not constitute an investment recommendation or offer to provide investment advisory services. Charts and graphs provided within are for informational purposes solely and should not be relied upon when making any investment decision. Past performance is not indicative of future results. The content speaks only as of the date indicated. Any projections, estimates, forecasts, targets, prospects, and/or opinions expressed in these materials are subject to change without notice and may differ or be contrary to opinions expressed by others.

Wealthcast Media, an affiliate of Ritholtz Wealth Management, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. Investments in securities involve the risk of loss. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here: https://www.ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers

Please see disclosures here.

What's been said:

Discussions found on the web
  1. https://eatverts.com commented on Sep 14

    … [Trackback]

    […] Info to that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  2. tor social network commented on Oct 11

    … [Trackback]

    […] Find More to that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  3. 김치티비 commented on Dec 18

    … [Trackback]

    […] Read More Information here on that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  4. tangerine banque sign in commented on Jan 11

    … [Trackback]

    […] Information on that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  5. Digital Transformation Solutions commented on Jan 17

    … [Trackback]

    […] Read More on on that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  6. human hair wigs commented on Jan 20

    … [Trackback]

    […] Find More on that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  7. bmo online sign in commented on Jan 26

    … [Trackback]

    […] Info to that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  8. cibc online banking commented on Jan 27

    … [Trackback]

    […] Read More to that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]

  9. DevOps Strategy commented on Feb 04

    … [Trackback]

    […] Read More to that Topic: thereformedbroker.com/2010/01/30/mauldin-on-greece-the-question-now-is-whether-or-not-they-run-on-the-banks/ […]